I love homosexual people. I have a good friend who is one and an aunt. They are just like everyone else because they are made in the image of God. All peoples are made in the image of God no matter who you are and should be treated with value.Thus also from a Christian perspective All of us share the same heritage coming from our father Adam.
Not even a full blown evolutionist can make this claim because in the system of evolution: the strong prevail over the weak and what doesn’t allow for the furtherance of a race is allowed to die of.
So this brings me to my next point concerning our Father Adam. In beginning or the book of Genesis God makes man from the dust of the earth and breathes life into him and makes male and female in his image.
But the question you might ask is: why aren’t we all perfect if God is perfect and we are made in His image? Well God is a just God and is not a dictator who forces people to love Him but gives them a choice. Thus he set a tree in the garden which he commanded them not to eat from. But they ate and then because God is perfect and His person demands in and of itself perfection man was cursed for his disobedience and sent out from the Garden.
Thus “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” All peoples were thus born separated from God and sinful. No one sin was greater than another. And so the sin of lusting after or having sex with a person of the same sex is just as sinful as lying, stealing, having sex outside of marriage, and many other. Sin is the opposite of God’s character and thus since we sinned we were all marred. If I lust after a women in my heart it is no different than another person lusting after someone of the same sex. Before God we all stand equally guilty and there is no way to pay God off with works because God’s person demands perfection.
All persons are left hopeless if we are left to try to please God on our own. But God loved us so much that He came in the form of a man and died for us!! Salvation then come when we believe that the only way he can stand before God is based solely off of the death Jesus and not our own works as:
Ephesians 2: 8-9 “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
So its by Grace which is defined as “God giving us something freely that we don’t deserve”. We trust in God to save us, not by our own Works or effort, But solely based on God’s Gift we are be saved and brought back to God.
So all are equal before God and should be treated as so. It is no harder for a person who struggles with same sex issues to be saved then is a man who struggles with chronic masturbation. They both have to deal with their lifestyles as sin. So I don’t believe I should call people who struggle with Homosexuality Homosexuals or gays anymore because that is like calling a man who masturbates a Masturbator or labeling a person who lies as a liar.
For we are all sinners before God. But God loves us so much that he calls us into a relationship with him. And instead of labeling us Homosexual or Liar or Thief He wants to call us Sons and Daughters of the Most High God. He calls us thus into a relationship with him who is Creator, All-powerful- All-knowing, love and holy. He will meet all of our true needs that the things of this earth can’t. Trust in Him for He is perfect and knows best and loves you, for he made you to dance in his presence and to enjoy him and his creation. And the real reason He has these standards is because it lines up with who He is and the way He wired the Universe. So will you embrace this loving God who desires to call you His Sons and Daughters?
I agree with some of what you say. However, what do you mean by “a person who struggles with same sex issues?” Moreover, where is “chronic masturbation” mentioned in the Bible?
ReplyDeleteAlso, consider the scriptures below:
1 John 5
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.
18We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him. 19We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. 20We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
John 15
1"I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
5"I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you. 8This is to my Father's glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
i know about confrontation and i never said they were saved. And Jesus says "who ever lusts in his heart after a women commits adultery with her in his heart'. By a "a person who struggles with same sex issues. I'm making the point that all have a tendency toward a sin of their liking, like mines lust, ones might be gospel, ones might be power. etc. I'm pointing out that a homosexuals lifestyle change into a christian is no different then any others because we are all hostile to God and need change and must recognize we are sinner. What are you disagreeing with? I'm not saying a homosexual person is saved if they haven't trusted in Christ. Thought i do believe he can struggle with that sin and still be a christian to say so would be ridiculous because all struggle. its a matter of if you struggle well and press unto Jesus. so what is your main argument?
ReplyDeleteyou should read my other posts they will help to maybe clarify where all I'm coming from.
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ReplyDeleteHey Josh~ Good insight..I enjoyed ur posting..
ReplyDeleteFYI, for renato's question, Josh, you might want to change the term from "same sex issue" to "same sex attraction" to be clear..maybe..^
Yes..right, we were all sinner before God... this is one of my favoirte verses..
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.” Paul clearly points out that Homosexuals can be washed, sanctified and justified in the power of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit like any other sinners such as thieves, the covetous, and drunkards. Paul clearly says that “Such were some of you.” It is in the past tense. That means that they are not homosexuals anymore because they became new creatures in Christ (2 Cor. 5:17). they can still struggle with those issues like alcohol, greed, or the same sex attraction...But they have hope as long as they do not giving up turing to the Lord with their struggles.
If this is true, "No one sin was greater than another," why does God condemn some sins as abominations? Some are punished by immediate death, some by removal from the community, and some are not. Why is that?
ReplyDeleteCould you give me the passages your referring to for a point of reference?
ReplyDeleteTry Leviticus and even Paul seems to seperate sin in 1 Cor 6, or when he lists those that will not inherit the kingdom of God.
ReplyDeletewell Leviticus is where the law is and if you take some passages you have to talk all. so if you take your logic then certain sins send you to hell and others dont? I know you believe if comes down to belief. Thus you would have to say that certain sins are above God, or are you saying that if someone claims to be a christian but does those sins or struggles with them then they are not saved?
ReplyDeleteHere is what I am asking, if "no one sin is greater than another," then why does God place sin into different catagories when He gives Moses the law? Why does Paul seperate some sins as those that will not inherit the kingdom of God?
ReplyDeleteI am not sure what you are talking about in your last comment. I hear people say that all sins are equal in the eyes of God, but I am not sure that this is biblical. Since you made the comment, I want you to back it up from Scripture. Why does God place sin into catagories if they are all equal in His eyes?